(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
DT[2014-01-04]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]CR[ha][la][hb][lb][hc][lc][id][he][ke][kf]C[Flenwan [6k\]: hello!
Alexei [10k\]: Hi!
Konservas [1d\]: hey
Konservas [1d\]: yes we can hear
Alexei [10k\]: yes
waynec [9k?\]: Hi
hiss [-\]: Hello
xaero [-\]: hi
Konservas [1d\]: there is some strange noise , is it background or just your mic?
Kretzsche [2k?\]: Hello!
Alexei [10k\]: like a humming
Flenwan [6k\]: lots of static
Alexei [10k\]: white noise
vano1 [2d?\]: Hi Lance
JosEquis [1d\]: hello! first shygost lecture i've been to in years
Flenwan [6k\]: same
Alexei [10k\]: not much
Konservas [1d\]: its fine, we can hear you , so we will ignore it :)
JosEquis [1d\]: sound is fine here
Alexei [10k\]: worse
Wulong [3k?\]: am I ok?,  is he ok?, and what is big?
]
(;AW[cc][cd][ce][cf][cg][ch]AB[ec][ed][ee][ef][eg][eh]C[Konservas [1d\]: may i ask you how long the lecture will last?:)
]
;B[ei]
;W[ic]
;B[kc]
;W[ie]
;B[jd]
;W[id]
;B[jf]
;W[if]
;B[jg]C[Konservas [1d\]: white just throws egg into a wall
]
;W[]
;B[pd]
;W[ig]
;B[jh]C[Konservas [1d\]: yes
Flenwan [6k\]: yes
])
(;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[pc]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[cf]
;B[id]
(;W[qf]
;B[pe]
;W[rd]
;B[pf]
;W[qg]
(;B[ph]C[Flenwan [6k\]: yep
]
(;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[kd]
;B[jf])
(;W[qc]
;B[pb]
(;W[jp]LB[qh:A][qi:B][ri:C]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]
;B[ri]
(;W[sg])
(;W[pg]
;B[og]
(;W[qj]
;B[sg])
(;W[sg]
;B[qj]
;W[rb]LB[jp:A]TR[og][qh][ri][qj]C[Konservas [1d\]: yes
waynec [9k?\]: I think so
]
(;B[cn])
(;AB[qk][pl][rl][qm]LB[qh:C][ri:A][qj:B]C[waynec [9k?\]: So W needs to try to deny Black the free moves
]))))
(;W[qi]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]TR[re][rg][ri])
(;W[qh]
;B[pi])
(;W[ri]
;B[pg]TR[ph][qi][rj][sk]C[waynec [9k?\]: 2nd line move so early in the game?
Konservas [1d\]: good for white
Konservas [1d\]: or closed in:)
waynec [9k?\]: Q4 doesn't count?
]
(;W[]
;B[qj]
(;W[]
;B[rj])
(;W[rj]))
(;W[qj]LB[qj:A]C[waynec [9k?\]: Is A an inside move?
Konservas [1d\]: not getting pressed down :)
]
;B[pj]C[Konservas [1d\]: this move seems good :
]
(;W[]C[Konservas [1d\]: i mean a:>
]
;B[qk]C[JosEquis [1d\]: 'white's thickness is superior' is the quote
JosEquis [1d\]: i thiknk
])
(;W[pk]
;B[pi]
(;W[ok]
;B[qk])
(;W[qk]C[Konservas [1d\]: white has t ofix
]
(;B[ok])
(;B[rh]
;W[qh]
;B[qi]
(;W[rj])
(;W[rg]
(;B[rj])
(;B[ok]
(;W[fq]
;B[rj]
;W[sh]
;B[pl]
;W[rk]
;B[rl]
;W[ql]
;B[qm]
;W[sj])
(;W[ol]
;B[nl]
(;W[nk]
;B[oj]
;W[om]
;B[ml]
(;W[]
;B[qn])
(;W[qn]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[nq]CR[ga][ha][oa][gb][hb][ob][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][nc][oc][ne][oe][nf][of][ng][og][nh][oh][ni][oi][oq][pq][nr][or][pr][ns][os][ps]TR[ac][rc][sc][ad][bd][sd][ae][be][ce][se][af][bf][rf][sf][qm][rm][sm][bp][bq][br][bs]C[Konservas [1d\]: i cant see that ^^
Konservas [1d\]: i thought its about even :>
JosEquis [1d\]: definitely...
Konservas [1d\]: its amazing
Konservas [1d\]: go is so amazing :)
Konservas [1d\]: 22?:>
Konservas [1d\]: 34 points for white?:>
Konservas [1d\]: yea
Woodstock [-\]: how do you account for weaknesses in a wall though?
Yakami [1k\]: What was b's mistake?
]
(;W[]
;B[db]C[Kretzsche [2k?\]: but how to decide "when 1 moves makes the moyo into territory"
]
;W[]C[waynec [9k?\]: So "can't mess with the W side" is enough to compensate for the Black wall?
]
;B[cc]
;W[]
;B[ch]
;W[eg]
;B[cd]
;W[gg])
(;W[fq])
(;W[je]
;B[jd]
(;W[ke])
(;W[le]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]
;B[kd]
;W[lg]
;B[ld]
;W[lj]C[Yakami [1k\]: now it's a lot easier to see the count from before
]
(;B[db]
;W[lq]
;B[lp]
;W[kp]
;B[mp]
;W[jq]
;B[ko]
;W[jo]
;B[kn]
;W[ll]C[qwert2Z [16k\]: ?
qwert2Z [16k\]: where is he?
])
(;B[]
;W[eb])))))
(;W[oj]
;B[nk])))))))))))
(;B[fe]
;W[di]
;B[fh]
;W[dl]
;B[ph])
(;B[oh]
;W[qj]
;B[fe]))
(;W[np]
;B[pn]
;W[pq]
;B[qq]
;W[oq]
;B[qr]))
(;B[gs]
;W[gr]
;B[hs]
;W[hr]
;B[is]
;W[ir]
;B[js]
;W[jr]
;B[ks]
;W[kr])
(;B[gr]
;W[gq]
;B[hr]
;W[hq]
;B[ir]
;W[iq]
;B[jr]
;W[jq]
;B[kr]
;W[kq]C[Konservas [1d\]: white
])
(;B[gp]
;W[go]
;B[hp]
;W[ho]
;B[ip]
;W[io]
;B[jp]
;W[jo]
;B[kp]
;W[ko]C[Konservas [1d\]: black ;>
])
(;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[hq]
;W[hp]
;B[iq]
;W[ip]
;B[jq]
;W[jp]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[lq]
;W[lp]C[Woodstock [-\]: good reasoning...it's the first time i heard of that rule of thumb
]))
